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How do you cope with not working and long term illness Options
Paul Barrett
#1 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 5:09:54 PM Quote
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I seem to have gone off the edge of a cliff. I had an incredibly demanding, fulfilling and enjoyable job that filled my working life (and encroached on home life too). I have now moved onto my company's long term sickness scheme which has generous benefits, but wit the effects of my disease I am not able to do most of the things I had planned to do in retirement - like woodworking for example. So I have this huge void to fill and when the fatigue finally goes and I have the motivation to do things the question is what?

Have any of you faced this predicament. How did you go about solving it?

My GP has been great - counselling is being arranged and I have some happy pills to tide me over. He tells me that many healthy people struiggle wit the edjustment and when you layer on teh last few years of illness and constant pain it is perhaps not surprising that I feel low.

Any kind of work is out of the question - even if I COULD do it the terms of the long term sickness plan preclude it.

How do YOU cope with this on a daily basis?
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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Louisa
#2 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 6:11:43 PM Quote
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I think this has been the hardest part for me. I'm just not a stay at home in the day type of person. I miss working so much. Also, all my long term friends work.

So far the things I have tried have included;

* Trying to use the time to exercise in whatever ways were possible at the time.

* Doing house things. I find that when I am too unwell to do much that the house turns into a tip, so when I am ok I do what I can to stem the flow of mess. I am also slowly decorating.

* Go out when possible. The world is full of nice places so I go to them when I can.

* Finally catching up with seeing people I have been promising to visit but never had time to before.

* Is there a hobby you would like to try that you can now do, even in modified form?

* I'd love to go to adult ed classes but I can't get there. If you can though this might be an option for you.



I really hope you find ways to manage this. I'd like to hear what yours are if you do find things. I am still trying to adapt, though I am doing better than I was.


Jane.
#3 Posted : Monday, August 12, 2013 10:33:14 PM Quote
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I have found having ra and being a mum I just adapt my jobs, if things haven't been great then don't beat yourself up over some dust. Dust will be there another day to polish and clean. Hoovering the same as dusting all depending on how you feel. It's not about keeping up with the Hycynth Bouquets!

You have to pace yourselves BigGrin

My recovery from total knee replacement has been making he most of family membership we have with the national trust, beautiful gardens to break my knee in. If you can't manage that then the national trust provide wheel chairs - ring the place up to ask about mobility before you set off.

I've enjoyed walking around Bristol to find Gromits: http://www.gromitunleashed.org.uk/
It's fun, we found 34 until yesterday to a lot more! Good exercise with the added bonus for spending quality time together as a family. Also creates memories for us as a familyRazz

I make the most of going out (with my sticks) and enjoy the now. Tongue Razz

Can't take a bath? Shower instead.
Can't chop. Use a mini chopper
Can't walk far? Get sticks/what you feel comfortable with.
Can't open tins? Buy an electric can opener
Can't park out of the way in a car park? Apply for a blue badge because I have! It is a god send for me.
Can't fiddle with buttons on quilt? Sew/iron Velcro instead
Can't mop a floor? Use clothes and a walking stick/crutches to move the cloth around

It's all about adapting to suit us better.
I go to the gym and love it......slowly but I can achieve things in my own wat

I don't take pills for moods because I'm a happy bubbly I dependant cookieBigGrin

I'm back at work on a recoup plan, typing with a special mouse and chairBigGrin in trying to prove that I'm capable to be at work with the help of some reasonable adaptions



RichC
#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:48:18 AM Quote
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Hi Paul ,
Well I can thoroughly recommend volunteering , especially at CAB , where there is an even higher need for help and assistance at all levels .

I have not and will not write myself off , especially at 49 , with no company sickness :O.

The training is good , and dependent on the Bureau you can use what skills you already have or learn new ones.

I keep myself alive mentally by that and I have got more back than i put in , although Management will disagree:).
I have done their website and now have just started doing what is called permitted work( can do under 16hrs and earn £99.50 pw without it affecting benefits! This will not be part of Universal credit) , selling images and basic web design. A massive learning process but when i am well i am very driven :)

I still don't know how to pace myself though and am often housebound for a week or two :O

I stil take elevated amnts of Nortriptylene to fend off any depression and am reasonably happy :)

Rich
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
Paul Barrett
#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:21:59 PM Quote
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Thanks for the replies everybody.

I feel a bit of a fraud moaning when I am the very lucky recipient of a generous company sickness scheme. But the reality is that toppling off the edge of the cliff from full on work to relatively empty days has made me feel very low. My motivation is low too. I think I need to deal with the depression first. I shall look for a counsellor and see how that goes.

At 61 I would have had to face this dilemma in a few years anyway, when I retire. But I had planned to do that in stages and work myself into a planned switch-over. It's the suddenness that had caught me unprepared.
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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Jane.
#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:54:08 PM Quote
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Paul

It's about everyone finding our right balance that suits us all in different ways. But please don't be hard on yourselfThumbDown

I decided to take up baking when I was off sick, bought a mixer from amazon and baked lots like banana & walnut loaf/fairy cakes/cupcakes once I had measured the ingredients the electric mixer did the hard work for me!

Good luck with a councillor, hopefully may help you to move on Smile

Take care
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Paul Barrett
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:41:21 PM Quote
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Well, I have had to change the medication for depression already.

Sertraline did not suit me at all. My GP warned me that it would probably make me feel worse before it made me feel better and that would be good because it would mean that it would work well in the long run. After one week of no side effects but having felt better, week 2 saw my depression increase day by day. The mornings were worst, and by day 12 I was an emotional wreck; sobbing and shaking from head to toe.

Good old 111 service (I am in the North East and our 111 service is excellent) sorted me out, with some beta blockers to rid me of the immediate symptoms and an instruction to cease the Sertraline. That was last Saturday. On Monday i saw my GP who decided to increase the dose of the Amitryptiline that I am already on for muscle pain to a level that would be therapeutic for depression - and so far it seems to be working. Mornings no longer fill me with dread and I feel much calmer.

Let's hope this keeps up.
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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mylo
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:26:42 PM Quote
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Hi Paul

Have you thought of doing the expert patient self management course? I did it recently and found it really helpful - particularly for planning and motivating myself. The website is www.expertpatients.co.uk. Anyone with a chronic condition can apply for the course; when I did it, other people had diabetes, depression, osteoarthritis etc, but no-one else had RA. There's no fee!

I'd be interested to hear what you make of it, if you do enrol.

Good luck, Mylo
Paul Barrett
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:07:29 PM Quote
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I'll take a look Mylo - thanks
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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Sheila-R
#10 Posted : Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:55:51 PM Quote
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I acknowledge that we have to make life changes either in terms of jobs or lifestyle, but I still think there's a place to grieve for the loss of physical activity, and this change, its not something that can be done in a couple of months its part of a process and from there we gardually put our lives back together but perhaps in a different way to how they were before. At times I can be fairly hard nosed and logical, but have found that RA also messes with your emotions, and sometimes it feels like they physically hurt. I'm sure this is not unusual for anyone with a long term condition, and like other conditons needs a little help with medication from time to time.
Best to all
Sheila
LynW
#11 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:34:42 AM Quote
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Hi all

I absolutely love Jane's positive and exciting response of 12 August which mirrors what would have been my own reply. Thanks Jane for that it restores my belief in human nature ... positivity in all things! ThumpUp

So easy to get 'the glums' but there is no reason to be down, feel sorry for oneself or feel grief for what is no more. ThumbDown That is life, and RA is not a terminal illness. It require adaptation, a change of outlook and a sense of realism. Think how you might feel if you'd had a severe stroke to be left unable to walk, talk or use one side of your body, a diagnosis of terminal cancer, motor neurone disease or one of hundreds of other very debilitating conditions. In comparison RA is little more than a minor nuisance in life's vast wilderness. Painful? Yes!! Life limiting? No!! And, before I get shouted at for being inconsiderate and lacking sympathy I have had severe RA for over 25 years, borne at a time when the treatments were mainly steroids and anti-inflammatories, requiring surgery on several occasions and joint replacement and have run the gamut of available drugs.

I accept life from now on comes with challenges but with today's modern medicines RA is very treatable and drug induced remission much more commonplace. Concentrate on getting the RA under control and the world opens up a variety of new endeavours.

Be positive, stay positive BigGrin

Lyn x
My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

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#12 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:31:02 PM Quote
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As ever, words of wisdom borne out of years of RA demons. It can be life changing but
who ever knows whats round the corner for any of us. Anne
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#13 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:51:01 PM Quote
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Paul

I am so sorry that you are finding your enforced retirement so hard to cope with. My Husband had to give up work with depression and anxiety about five years ago at 51 and it is such an awful disease and is so overlooked as an illness in itself.

He found it very hard in the beginning going from a long day at work to sitting around the house and having no motivation. His worst enemy is time. Now we have to keep him motivated as much as possible and he now runs our house, does the shopping, cleaning, gardening etc. He says he does not know how he ever had time to go to work. Smile However, he is physically fit so it is possible for him to do this.

Unfortunately he cannot take anti-depressants as he had a very bad allergic reaction to them, so for the last five years he has had to battle on with no medication. He was recently given some Pregabalin for muscle pains and although he only takes a very mild dose it does seem to have helped with the depression a little.

Depression is a very hard thing for you to pull yourself out of (the worst phrase anyone can say to you is "pull yourself together"). From the experience I have had with my Husband, you need to set yourself little goals and interesting things you can do. This does not necessarily mean going out of the house but you have to keep your mind occupied with anything other than how you are feeling. Although I work full time (a necessity to keep the money coming in) I also sew, knit and read outside of work time as this keeps my mind occupied so that I do not dwell on the pain and the fact that I have to drag myself into work.

I also think the counselling will help you a lot to come to terms with what has happened to you and how your life has taken a different course to what you are expecting. Yes there is life after RA but for some of us it is a harder path to be trod. Hopefully we can help you along this path with words of encouragement and support.

Take care

Jackie
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Paul Barrett
#14 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 10:57:40 AM Quote
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Thanks Jackie - I think you summed it up really nicely there. The amitryptiline seems to be working and I have high hopes for the counselling (when I can get it arranged - everyone is on summer holiday break at the moment).
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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#15 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 7:29:57 PM Quote
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hi Paul,

trying to catch up with some posts,

sorry to hear you have fallen into a depression, it really is understable. i had already given up work ( well a long time ago ) when i was diagnosed, but i know from the forum lots of Members do take Anti-Depressants i think they go hand in hand with chronic conditions.

my Hubby retired last December after 45 years in a very busy job, he did callout once every 4 nights and loved his job, but as things began to change as most Companies seem to now he began to fall out of love with it and he knew the time was right for him to go with a good pension, and he didn't fancy another winter of digging the snow off the drive at 2.a.m.

i can't believe how well he has taken to his retirement, but of course he can do all the things he enjoys, so i understand how much you would have looked forward to retiring naturally.

is there a hobby you could try that doesn't require physical activity, it might not be what you want to do forever but something to use your mind, or some sort of voluntary work that would be on your terms.

when i first joined the forum i posted i had lost my Va Va Voom, that was the only way i could describe it .. bot for me the fatigue has always been the thing that got me rather than the pain.

nowadays if i get a really bad fatigue day ( which for me is often because i am a poor sleeper ) i now can think through the fatigue and get out and do what i want too, not sure if this is because i am well under control RA wise or because i know this is my lot now. i think until your spirits lift any decisions are 10 times harder. ( i am in a wheelchair for distance because of Osteo in my knee's ) but now Hubby is home it's easier for me as he pushes me.

really i have just rambled on here, but trying to say i am sure you will turn a corner soon, and hopefully some counselling will help.

best wishes,

Suzanne
Paul Barrett
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:26:51 PM Quote
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suzanne_p wrote:
hi Paul,
when i first joined the forum i posted i had lost my Va Va Voom, that was the only way i could describe it .. bot for me the fatigue has always been the thing that got me rather than the pain.


"Va Va Voom" - that's a perfect description. And the fatigue is the worst for me too now.

Paul
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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Ashishaikh
#17 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 2:54:37 AM Quote
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Hi Everyone,

I had to leave a job which I loved most.... Although my job was pressurizing and the long hours were an advantage to me as it was a way and a reason to keep my mind off life's terrible stresses and my diagnosis of RA. I challenged it till Life would allw me and worked long hours in denial of my RA, even though at times it was difficult for me to use my arms and fingers due to pain. Wouldn't be able to the or write, but I managed somehow. Eventually.........
I had to give in 2 years ago at the age of 37 because I couldn't carry on any longer, my knees n leg joints had given in....and became paralized and life no longer gave me a choice to challenge RA. I was hospitalised for 3 months and my life has changed forever since the discharge fom hospital. I am unable to do anything at home and need carers to take care of even my smallest personal needs. I not only suffer with chronic RA but also suffer with chronic Neuorolical Disorder, Yet I believe I will one day come out fom this depressing diagnosis and will be able to take up my loving job once again. I am glad I have come across this website as It gives me encouragement and I can see I am not the only one, and now I do not need to ask myself why I am left in this situation. I was very depressive and low when I joined this site, but since reading and speaking to many people I feel more energetic and positive.
There are people out there who are in worst situations who are probably more positive and stronger then most of us. Best way of self treatment is to think positive. It's hard I know, because I am also going through this life's phase, but I believe nothing remains the same for ever, it does eventually get better. I hope to get to know you all better with time. Bye
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#18 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2013 11:45:01 AM Quote
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Hi there,
Not seen you on here before and I don't often post, but I was so moved by what you have written and while I really feel for you in your situation which must be so hard, I am full of admiration for your positive spirit which will see you through so much in life.
I really hope that eventually you will find a way to do some work that you love as, like you, I found it wonderful to do something that takes us away from the world of RA and it's associated conditions, if only mentally.
Thinking of you and hoping that today finds you with those courageous thoughts and less pain.
Take good carexx
Ashishaikh
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:11:53 AM Quote
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Hi Anna

Yes, I m fairly new to this site, I joined some months ago, but due to pain and illness was not able to come online for a while. I seem to read a lot on here, but rarely post just like you...... But would like to thank you for your well wishes.... And caring thoughts...xx
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